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Patrick Fenton, who lived in Australia regularly told people that when he had worked as a seaman on the Titanic, he had witnessed an explosion on the ship which had caused it to sink, rather than the collision with the iceberg. Ballard has written several books between 1987 - 2021 and all state in no uncertain terms that he discovered the Titanic - not the Olympic. Lack of publicity for Titanic - Yes. Omissions? 3. It is pure speculation about a 'switch' that did not happen. In 1971 James Fenton, an elderly boatswain serving aboard the Australian cargo ship Kooliga, told colleagues about his experiences aboard the Titanic. Only a limited number of changes required for a switch 6. - Yes. However these differences are easily explained as Titanic was a work in progress and had many additions and alterations prior to her maiden voyage. Claim: Olympic's trials in 1910 took two days, including several high-speed runs, but Titanic's trials reportedly only lasted for one day, with allegedly none over half-speed. a lifeboat, keeping older hands on deck for lowering boats. What they seem to miss is that this is clearly a fake, computer generated image, as it doesn't match any other footage ever shot of the wreck let alone the bow section. in a high position in the company, the other man was in a very high position Only a limited number of changes required for a switch, 8. Californian was carrying woolly jumpers and blankets 11 [American Inquiry, Day 7]. The "Olympic" is the Titanic's sister ship ("RMS Olympic"), and part of the conspiracy . 4. To the untrained eye, the exterior differences between the two ships were minor anyway, so would have been deemed an unnecessary amount of extra work that would likely benefit very few. And there is evidence of 'white' paint on the hull of the wreck. The Olympic deck plans show a curved wheelhouse: 2. While the Californian was primarily designed to transport cotton, there is absolutely no evidence that it had a 'Titanic of the skies': The story of London's ill-fated luxury airship service to Melbourne. According to Don Lynch and his book "Titanic: An Illustrated History" they did not accompany him on the maiden voyage because they had instead chosen to spend the time on a motor holiday through Wales.. and would never get a job when they got out. Alleged footage of Olympic's name on the wreck - it is obviously fake. The fields are mined and the moon is bright. It clearly occurred in a different part of the ship than where the Titanic split. The evidence for this is that it is only mentioned Updates? His answer, as it was in relation to the wreck only, is because "the wreck wasn't 100% confirmed until Jim Cameron's expedition in 2010/11 i.e. 19345. 39. To confirm this Parks Stephenson visited B-52 with James Cameron on a later mission in 2001 and described the room as still retaining "several of its fittings. The montage was then later created by "AIVL, WHOI" and released by National Geographic on the 100th anniversary of the sinking in March 2012. were being made to further increase the ships speed. In discussing the claim that "Olympic was fitted with Titanics starboard propeller shaft" Mark Chirnside summarises: "There is no evidence that Harland & Wolff ever used one of Titanics propellers, or propeller blades, on Olympic; there is every reason to believe that they would have had a spare Olympic propeller in any case.". Two major watertight compartments were flooded, her hull plating was gashed, the starboard propeller shafting damaged. Ballard has subsequently written several books including "The Discovery of the Titanic" (1987), "Exploring the Titanic" (1988) until the most recent "Into the Deep - A Memoir From the Man Who Found Titanic"(2021) which all prove that he thought it was Titanic when he discovered her in 1985 and still believes it to be Titanic in 2021. Above: Olympic, taken during her 1912/13 refit following the Titanic disaster, allegedly shows the vessel without the tell-tale plating joint. If he had been sworn to secrecy then why did he tell only one or two random individuals? Seacocks opened to hasten the sinking, 30. His winning sonnet sequence was later published with the assistance of his professor, poet John Fuller, as Our Western Furniture (1968) and was broadcast on the BBC. This particular picture was a fake and I have an email from the producer of the film confirming this. Without further information or documentation on this "private flat in the Wirral" -even a photograph - But does this now mean we should treat with suspicion that there were "numerous" ships in the area when Titanic sank? Some thus reason that the swap still took place out of business and economic necessity. A post disaster image of Olympic shows the plating joint has disappeared, revealing she is in fact Titanic. The letters for Titanic are shown here in embossed form when in reality the outlines were etched into the hull. Claim: The ship was going full steam, but was achieving only 21 knots, rather than its theoretical maximum of 23, despite the Atlantic being exceptionally calm on the night of the sinking. So that makes it 3 vessels in the area. Note that of these 6 vessels, 3 were travelling west and 3 were travelling east. Then there's the furniture: so heavy you could hardly lift it. He wrote most of them when. 30. 45,324. However, he does not show a picture of this, nor does he offer any source for this assertion at all. This is one of several undocumented, unreferenced claims. All other portholes on this part of the ship remained as they appeared at the time of her launch. Gardiner further hypothesizes that the ship that was hit by the Titanic was the one seen by the Californian firing distress rockets, and that this explains the perceived inaction of the Californian (which traditionally is seen as failing to come to the rescue of the Titanic after sighting its distress rockets). Claim: As welding had not yet been invented, it was customary for White Star Line to etch or cut the names of their liners into the steel and not rivet them to the outside. Their error is simple: actually Titanic would have been the same tonnage as Olympic i.e. 1 2. Also several other passengers such as Lady Duff Gordon and Edith Rosenbaum reported ice on the deck. Paddy also said Though a stint reporting from Germany for The Guardian (197879) was ultimately abortive, A Vacant Possession (1978), his pamphlet of narrative poems, was a critical success. This was standard White Star Line practice. The Olympic didn't even have a carpet, but the Titanic -- ah, you sank in it up to your knees. Claim: When James Cameron sent a robot in to Ismay's room it filmed a veined marble surround on the fireplace that exactly matches that shown in a photograph of the corresponding stateroom aboard Olympic, taken in 1911. would have remained in surplus. Titanic advertising used photographs and artwork of the Olympic. This is demonstrably false information. Certainly not enough to justify eyewitness reports of the quantity of ice on the deck. It began in January of 1912 seemingly confuses the two in name. Olympic's wheelhouse in 1912 was curved at the front (left diagram) while Titanic's was straight. The Olympic and the Britannic were also consistent on the starboard side, with 15 portholes. 5. Why would it be there? Author Steve Hall admits it could be the, 48. No, and for one very simple reason: it is a faux marble fireplace. Damage to the Olympic due to its collision with HMS Hawke. In my view it is very unlikely that the damage was more significant than was admitted at the time. Steve Hall does not believe the 'switch' theory at all: "The problem with that doco is it's 13 years old Of course it's Titanic." It is the Olympic, not Titanic. name on it. Claim: White Star never had any intention of scuttling the ship. - Fourth Officer Boxhall "a little ice in the well deck covering a space of about three or four feet from the bulwarks right along the well deck, small stuff. (British Enquiry,Day 13) Claim: The Olympic's hull was painted white for its launch so that it would show up in photographs better. He had called 29. it is highly unlikely that any crew member would have foregone his pay, and no pay was ever claimed by a crewman named James Fenton. As will be discussed here, those that are not inaccurate, ill-researched, dubious or simply fabricated actually have very simple and logical explanations: 1. Firstly, it must be considered that these images were first released in 2012 and have been examined in minute detail by hundreds if not thousands of researchers and historians since then, so why has it taken 7 years for this to have been spotted, if it is indeed unusual? Albert Edward James* -Able bodied seaman Hosgood, R. -Fireman Hosking, G. F. -Senior third engineer . According to Titanic researcher Ioannis Georgiou "no such statement from any passenger is known." The reality: In close-up we can clearly see that the name Titanic was actually sketched on to the negative/photograph to make it more visible and so cannot be used for reference. full speed. If a 'switch' was true, why would you need to create a 'meme' that is demonstrably false, by switching an 'actual' image of Titanic with the Olympic? the Olympic. ", The evolution of Titanic's port side portholes -from May 1911 when she was launched with 14, to April 1912 when she had 16. For those who have read this website, they will realise that there is certainly no evidence of a 'switch', all the claims have been exposed to reveal nothing but misinformation or fiction and most importantly that there is conclusive evidence to prove that it is Titanic that sank. Firstly Titanic was not a "steel double-hulled vessel". 'The Olympic Room' 8. Olympic had a 2 degree list to port, as did Titanic 5. The only picture in the entire production to which Mr Newton had any rights at all was one late in the film supposedly showing where the name on the wreck had been altered. 37. exploded and caused the fatal damage. Although Fenton is absent from all the available crew lists, it doesn't immediately negate his story - the lists are not infallible, and we all saw how Leonardo Di- er, Jack Dawson blagged his . principal constituent of IMM and enjoyed continued prosperity, its profit There is no evidence the insurance was increased - let alone by more than double its value, which would immediately raise suspicion. Also it must be noted that Titanic's dining room was Otherwise there is no other evidence crew were forced to sign any "Official Secrets Act." The lifeboat was wrecked in a collision with the Gosport Ferry at Portsmouth and taken by the Royal Navy to Haslar for demolition. And if you compare actual photographs of Titanic's starboard side to images of the wreck you will see it matches completely: A direct comparison reveals that the B-deck windows on Titanic and wreck match precisely, revealing the 'meme' to be false. There are two keys errors in this hypothesis. 43. James Fenton, in full James Martin Fenton, (born April 25, 1949, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England), English poet and journalist who was remarked upon for his facility with a wide variety of verse styles and for the liberal political views threading his oeuvre. The fact that Titanic left Belfast and then Southampton in something of a hurry, with none of the fanfare of the Olympic, just one day of sea trials, no stop in Liverpool, and no opening to the public in either Belfast or Southampton, should not come as surprise at all. Author Steve Hall admits it could be the Olympic The most telling aspect of this either unintentional -or possibly intentional- forgery, is the desperate need to do it. While reporting from the Philippines for The Independent in 198689, he witnessed the fall of the abusive authoritarian regime of Ferdinand Marcos. Morgan also had several valuable bronze statues removed from the ship just one hour before she sailed! As to Gardiner's claim that ''Titanic -actually the Olympic - never travelled faster than one-half her designed top speed, as her damaged hull was too weak to endure the stresses of a prolonged high-speed run', there is absolutely no documented evidence to support this. It was our intention if we had fine weather on Monday afternoon or Tuesday to The origin of this seems to have come from Paddy the pig, also known as James Fenton, who later in life related the following: When the (This was mentioned in Dan van der Vat and Robin Gardiners 1995 book, The Riddle of the Titanic, page 21.) In 1912 Paddy [claimed he] was a 22-year- James Fenton on how variation in a line presents the poet with many challenges. The wheelhouse actually sits within the bridge enclosure and behind the forward bulwark (see deck plans below). They would only be interested in shorter crossings. I can see no credible evidence of discolouration that would be proof positive of repair work, especially in the specific location where the Hawke penetrated Olympic's hull. I was wondering if there was enough information available about the conspiracy theories to warrant expansion or even a separate article. carburetter (he had filled in his declaration Olympic was recorded as having a tonnage of 45,324 (1911-1912) while the Titanic was recorded as 46,328 - a difference of 1004 gross tons. This is one of the most popular pieces of 'evidence' of a switch but also the easiest to disprove. If he had indeed mentioned it at a presentation why did it not become substantial news at the time? (Click image to enlarge). Claim: Since an iceberg could not inflict such damage on a steel double-hulled vessel such as the Titanic, it must have hit in the Government. He is a Fellow of the Royal Society of Literature and was Oxford Professor of Poetry for the . The source of this erroneous claim is here. Claim: The Californian had a cargo of a few thousand woolly jumpers and blankets, as if they were ready for a rescue mission. Refer to this previous point here for more information on the name Titanic on the wreck. 16. In another attempt to find a photographic inconsistency to support a 'switch' theory, this one is probably the hardest to see or make sense of. The production, which transplanted the story to the Mafia underworld of 1950s New York City, was a success, and it caught the eye of theatre producer Cameron Mackintosh, who asked him to translate the French musical Les Misrables, based on the book by Victor Hugo. This particular claim began when Robin Gardiner stated in his book that when the name on the bow of the Titanic wreck was cleared of rust (allegedly filmed by Dr. Ballard during his 1986 dive to the wreck), the raised letters 'M, P & Y' were visible. Damage to Olympic caused by its collision with HMS Hawke. White paint on the wreck the evidence that the number 400 (Olympic's number) is all over Olympic's woodwork (see more information on this here). His English translation of Giuseppe Verdis Rigoletto was staged by the English National Opera in 1982. It is a wild claim based purely on imagination. 21. It must first be stated that it is correct that there is a difference between Olympic in Titanic in this regard. "Olympic Class" referred to a set of three ships: Olympic, Titanic and Britannic. 2. So the accuracy of his statement is found wanting and thus calls into question his mention of carpet in the "dining saloon". Again no mention here that lifeboats were seen from B Deck. This claim is of course connected to the previous claim that the ship hit, instead of an iceberg, an IMM rescue ship that was drifting with its lights out. (Click image to see the full, enlarged photograph). The Hawke impacted the Olympic in the stern area. This is the 'meme' here: Ignoring the 'all caps', childish and somewhat emotional captioning, the key part of the image used is indeed from official wreck photographs. Lack of testimony. It mentions "Paddy the Pig" aka James Fenton. Firstly, how would White Star believe they could pull something like this off when no doubt hundreds of crew would see water pouring into the ship through the seacocks? They were also not on the gunwhales but on the sides of the lifeboat. James is a public writer - engag, as he probably doesn't like to say - and it is his poems about war, dictatorship and exile that have won him the PEN/Pinter award. Crewman refused to sail on Titanic The wreck clearly has a flat wheelhouse and hence it must be Titanic. As for the White Star Line itself, it was the Damage from Olympic 's collision with Hawke was more significant 3. If not insurance, a switch would keep the company operational However Southampton, (which had replaced Liverpool as a major international hub) was where transatlantic liners such as what White Star and Cunard operated were based, and hence the crew based in Southampton were experienced, international crew. There are ample photographs online and in books of this area of Titanic for you to check for yourself. the number of revolutions some time on Monday or Tuesday to 78, which he claimed would drive the ship at However he conveniently does not explain Thirdly, in a picture of Olympic, taken during her 1912/13 refit following the Titanic disaster, this allegedly shows this vessel not to have the 'tell-tale plating' joint, which to 'switch' proponents proves 'conclusively' that the hull pictured is that of Titanic although the name Olympic is clearly visible on both sides of the bow. 1853). Paddy said that the guilt of and was the first national strike by coal miners in Britain, with the main goal securing a minimum wage. Difference in Titanic's name plate These above images are used by conspiracy theorists alleging a difference in the length of Titanic name's hinting at a cover-up. James Cameron's epic movie 'Titanic' was released 25 years ago Starring Leonardo de Caprio and Kate Winslet, Titanic became the first movie to gross a billion dollars. Olympic's wheelhouse was not curved This was the number that was given to Titanic when it was being built in Belfast, Ireland. B. Ismay had all the linoleum flooring on the new "RMS Titanic" covered up with new carpet. 13. Was this to hide 12 months worth of scratches and marks on the linoleum's surface? To use this as evidence that it was actually the Olympic is certainly jumping to an extreme conclusion, especially with such a lack of supporting evidence. Claim: Titanic split at the same point where the Hawke hit, revealing that it was in fact the Olympic. Well it first must be noted that compared to the This is confirmed by Titanic researcher Ioannis Georgiou, who adds: "While it is true that some survivors such as Beesley and Chambers did speak about a port list, this was taken out of context as both were referring to April 14th. Interestingly, by the time of the Titanic disaster, Olympic's 14 portholes were also changed to 16 during her major refit, so in fact they were the same. However it must be pointed out that even battleships with sealed bulkheads will still sink, as they can roll over. But please read this information first, where it clearly shows that Lloyds records do not agree with this at all. the game. performance on her maiden voyage, and as the speed increased, Titanic was well placed to exceed her sisters average speed.". Captain Smith was photographed by a newspaper photographer on the bridge of the Titanic. 9. In 33 von 66 Fllen wurde der Preistrger spter mit einem Oscar ausgezeichnet, zuletzt 2022 geschehen, mit der Preisvergabe . He also may have been confused with the Reception Room, which did indeed have wall-to-wall carpet on the Olympic. Surviving crew signed the Official Secrets Act But also there would be no need to. This is a classic example of a 'meme' using demonstrably false information or incorrect images to promote the 'switch' theory, as it can be very easily disproved when looking at documented photographs. 36. Firstly, it is true that the Carpathia had a capacity of more than what the Titanic was carrying - the Carpathia was certified for more than 2800. Claim: The forged "Titanic" letters have rusted off and reveal a "MP" - part of the word Olympic that was actually engraved or embossed into the original metal panel of the ship. keeping quiet all those years had taken a great toll on his health and the sanity Damage from Olympic's collision with Hawke was more significant Ignoring the technical error made in this claim and focusing on the difference in gross tonnage (GT or internal volume) of the two ships, yes there was indeed a difference. If not insurance, a switch would keep the company operational, 12. The second photograph is of Titanic, while still being fitted out in 1911, which shows no similar joint in her hull plating just ahead of her port side anchor. old ordinary seaman aboard Titanic. At the time there was also a coal strike, issues with Olympic being repaired, and Titanic was not at full passenger capacity. Difference in number of Titanic's portholes And that paneling" This has led some to believe that Titanic's first class dining room, unlike the Olympic, was in fact carpeted over, as later portrayed in James Cameron's film "Titanic". Suspicion first arose when the Titanic disaster was claimed to be a conspiracy by James A. Fenton, otherwise known as "Paddy the Pig." A believed worker on the Titanic, Paddy the Pig theorized that the RMS Olympic was switched with the RMS Titanic in one of the biggest insurance scams in history. not go to sea as Titanic with Olympic written on the bells. On the wreck, what remains of the base of the wheel house (right) is clearly straight revealing it is indeed the Titanic (right image courtesy of Ghosts of the Abyss -Walt Disney Pictures and Walden Media). They were only just entering the icefield. Discoloured plating on Titanic 18. 3. But perhaps more importantly, the Carpathia was at least 50 miles away from the Titanic when it sank and did not respond until hearing the distress messages. anything like this. Titanic researcher Ioannis Georgiou explains further: "Ismay's sitting room was explored by James Cameron during his 2001 dives. The evidence Gardiner and others use to promote the idea of the Californian being a 'rescue ship' is that firstly, it was owned by J.P. Morgan (a "major figure at White Star"), left London in a hurry (as it could only do 12 knots and had to get there first) and was mysteriously sailing during a coal strike (when coal would have been more expensive) . The sea trials were simply to make sure everything worked as advertised. Titanic researcher and wreck explorer Parks Stephenson, who most recently was involved in photographing the Titanic wreck in 2019, simply replied: "People will see what they want" (26/09/2019) and posted this image: Claim: The starboard B-deck windows on the wreck are narrow, which matches the Olympic, not the Titanic. it is difficult to examine the evidence (if there is any) but needless to say it does sound like hearsay and an attempt to offset Firstly, they had been postponed for a day due to bad weather. It involves 3 photographs. Surviving crew signed the Official Secrets Act, 35. Claim: A large proportion of the engine crew signed off just prior to the ill fated voyage starting from Southampton, during a coal shortage which meant that many sailors were out of work due to their ships being laid up. Even sailing at top speed through dangerous waters it arrived several hours after the sinking. Patchwork and braces from Hawke collision in wreck photographs Secondly, and rather importantly, the names were not engraved on the lifeboats. Without this, such an allegation can simply be filed under 'hearsay. First and foremost is that the Californian would be a ridiculous choice as a rescue vessel. Fenton developed an early interest in poetry and at 17 traveled to Austria to visit W.H. The "Titanic" is a ship that sunk by hitting an iceberg in 1912, that was previously considered unsinkable ("Titanic"). such as Titanic's A Deck promenade which was enclosed by a steel screen with sliding windows, to provide additional shelter, and the promenades on Titanic's B Deck which were reduced in size, and the space used for additional cabins and public rooms, including two luxury suites with private promenades. Actually there were only 6 within a 140 mile radius. Where is the photograph? It is a measurement of volume or the enclosed internal space of a ship. They were: Californian (19 miles) a Leyland Line, Westbound London to Boston I do not have enough concrete information to say the ship at the bottom of the Atlantic is the Titanic.". Difference in tonnage The number 401, Titanic's shipyard number, is also on the Titanic's starboard propeller. Their reasoning is as follows: You can not add one thousand tons to a 46,000 ton ship and end up with a 46,000 ton ship. And there is overwhelming evidence presented on the previous page they were not switched. And so we have established that the Olympic's wheelhouse was indeed curved. Estimated at over $160 million today, this is more than they could ever have recovered if they had sold or scrapped her. Titanic was at full steam but not achieving maximum speed 14. 34. When the It was written in response to an article However, as discussed in point 36 (below), almost certainly James Fenton was not aboard Titanic as he claimed. Not to mention the difficulty in changing the shell-plating at the bow and stern which bore the ships names - the names were not just painted on the plates, they were cut into the plates in letters four feet high and one-half inch deep that were then filled in with paint. 19344. Even more conclusively, a New York Times newspaper article of Thursday 28th March 1912 reveals that in March "J. Pierpont Morgan has written a cordial letter to Claim: Titanic had 14 bow portholes. week and that the Captain and the company knew about it. EXCLUSIVE: To celebrate the 25th anniversary of James Cameron 's Titanic, the multiple Oscar winner and box office phenomenon has been set for a fresh theatrical release just in time for. furniture and panelling was better that the Olympic is not accurate; furnishings and paneling aboard Titanic were, with the exception of unique rooms such as the The fact that the Olympic went on to serve 24 years is simply because the damage was repaired. According to Titanic researcher Jonathan Smith, "The footing of the wheelhouse should be there, the teak lip that outlines the shape of the wheelhouse.". (Click to enlarge). that when the crew joined Titanic there was [sic] rumours that the company In a similarly themed false claim, it is also stated that "when the supposed Olympic was taken out of service in 1935 (arriving in Jarrow, UK on October 13th 1935 to be stripped and broken down) part of the wood panelling and other parts including the Aft first class staircase, was taken and used in the White Swan Hotel, Alnwick, UK. However, it is definitely not logical. Linoleum flooring covered with carpets The claim that he repeatedly referred to Titanic as Olympic seems to be without founding. In 1973 Terminal Moraine (1972), his first full-length collection of poetry, won the Eric Gregory Award. 15. A man in Australia, sent a letter to the Northern Star newspaper on July 31st 1996, which talks about a conversation his son had with Paddy. This was because Olympic's patched-up hull could not take any long periods of high speed. 24. Gewinner und Nominierte des Golden Globe Award in der Kategorie Beste Filmmusik (Best Original Score - Motion Picture), die die herausragendsten Leistungen von Komponisten des vergangenen Kalenderjahres prmiert.Die Kategorie wurde im Jahr 1948 ins Leben gerufen. then they absolutely need more than this very doubtful photograph to prove that Olympic's "doubler" is not overlapping and hence it is actually Titanic. ', When questioned about the 'switch' theory at the Belfast Titanic museum Q&A in 2014, the man who discovered the wreck of the Titanic, Dr Robert Ballard answers: "I think it is the Titanic at the bottom of the ocean. and this slipped to $4,509,270 in 1911. 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